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MMM-International => International Board => Thema gestartet von: Blackmonkey am 13. Dezember 2011, 23:00:44

Titel: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 13. Dezember 2011, 23:00:44
Hello, I'm from an italian community about Monkey Island and graphic adventures (can I post the link? or is it considered spam?).
We discovered Maniac Mansion Madness thanks to Giocherellone, another user of this forum.
He told us about your big project and he asked us if we were interested in translating some episodes of MMM in italian, and we thought it would be a great idea.
Unfortunately, for now, there aren't people who understand german among us, but we wold like to try to translate the episodes that already have an english version.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Der Kompaniechef am 14. Dezember 2011, 19:48:34
hy(in german moin,moin^^), Blackmonkey in our forum page!
I think it is  great  to translate episodes in italian.
MMM have very good episodes and it would be great when person like you can play games from MMM(not in german^^)
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Rayman am 14. Dezember 2011, 21:16:52
@Blackmonkey: Hello and welcome to the Maniac Mansion Mania-Community.
Yes, of course you can post the link to your graphic adventure-community here.

The problem is there aren't so many MMM-developer who translated their games in English,
but in my opinion some of us would like to start translating their games in English to send you English-Translation-Files for the Italian translating.

We are an open-minded community so it may be not a challenge to let you translate our episodes into Italian. :)
So I hope someone will give you an answere soon.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 14. Dezember 2011, 22:44:29
Thanks for the welcome!

That's true, only ten episodes are available in english, but I hope that translating them in italian will attract some (italian) fans that speak german. Or german fans that speak italian ^^

I've searched for the authors of those episodes in the user list, but I couldn't find three of them...

Anyway, I sent a minute ago a PM to KhrisMUC, asking for the english translation file of episode 2.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Bòógieman am 15. Dezember 2011, 08:14:08
I would love to see my episode 53 translated to Italian  :)
there is already an English translation, so if you want, you can translate it any time ;)
but there is a lot of text to translate since this episode is longer than regular episodes  :cl
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 15. Dezember 2011, 13:13:09
Thank you.
We would start with one episode, so we can have an idea of how much time it will take to translate.
So far, I think that the translators would be two (including me), but as I said, I hope this project will attract more people.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Rayman am 15. Dezember 2011, 13:33:07
And you also can create an episode if you want. ;)

We have an English-Bernard-Starterpack and it's possible that you can
create an Italian-Starterpack yourselves, if anyone would try to create an own episode.

http://www.maniac-mansion-mania.com/index.php/en/ressourcen/starterpacks-international
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 16. Dezember 2011, 23:27:07
@Rayman That's a good idea. I'll keep it in mind.

KhrisMUC send me the file of episode 61. At the moment, there are two of us who will work on it (me and Giocherellone).
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Rayman am 17. Dezember 2011, 10:49:39
that's very good, that KhrisMuc and Bòógie have sent you their translation-files. :)

And remember, the translation-files have to be translated in TXT-File, not in word,
because AGS can't upgrate word-files as translations.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 17. Dezember 2011, 12:23:55
I know, I know  ;D  KhrisMUC thaught me what to do.
Good ol' notepad.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 18. Dezember 2011, 22:23:05
Good news, everyone! Giocherellone told me that he's finished his half of the lines, and I'm near the end of mine.
There are still few points that need clarification, but I don't think they would take too much.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 22. Dezember 2011, 00:42:37
We're done! Just a few checks, and it'll be ready to play.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Rayman am 24. Dezember 2011, 18:54:07
We're done! Just a few checks, and it'll be ready to play.

What a nice surprise to read this! :)

I look forward to see the next Italian MMM-Episode. :)

Edit: The new link for the international MMM-Starterpacks: http://www.maniac-mansion-mania.com/index.php/en/ressourcen/starterpacks-international
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 12. Januar 2012, 19:38:12
Finally, it's done!  8)
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Rayman am 13. Januar 2012, 14:06:16
Finally, it's done!  8)

Pretty cool! :) Is the Italian version of Bernard's room ready to upload or is it already?

Edit: I've watched the Italian Version of Bernard's room now and it's great to see another
translated MMM-episode, but I also realized, that the Spanish flag is among the British and the Italian missing.
There is a Spanish translation-file in the game-rar-file, too.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 18. Januar 2012, 14:44:31
The next one will be ep. 53, "The Klaus strikes back".
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Narushima am 31. Januar 2012, 20:29:53
That's a long, long one, mate !
I'm still working on it, by the way.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Bòógieman am 01. Februar 2012, 07:55:15
I know  ;)
take your time, there is no need to hurry   :-*
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 13. Mai 2012, 20:07:37
Maniac Mansion Mania - Episode LIII - The Klaus Strikes Back is ready to be played in italian!




Now... I was thinking about translating the starterpack... but I don't know how to do it. I suppose I need AGS, right?
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Rayman am 13. Mai 2012, 20:40:10
Maniac Mansion Mania - Episode LIII - The Klaus Strikes Back is ready to be played in italian!




Now... I was thinking about translating the starterpack... but I don't know how to do it. I suppose I need AGS, right?

Fine, another Italian Episode is ready to play. :)

For translating the starterpack you need the exactly AGS version for the starterpack and the GUI-Verbs.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 15. Mai 2012, 00:13:34
The english starterpack is for AGS 2.7.1, but I have found only AGS 2.7.2... does somebody know where I can download it?
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Rayman am 15. Mai 2012, 17:59:45
The english starterpack is for AGS 2.7.1, but I have found only AGS 2.7.2... does somebody know where I can download it?

You can also open the English starterpack for version 2.71 with AGS 2.72.
After opening the English starterpack with AGS 2.72, you only can open it with AGS 2.72 again.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 15. Mai 2012, 23:30:07
Thanks.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 10. Dezember 2013, 12:39:30
We are still alive!!!
As you may have guessed, the attempt to translate the starterpack wasn't successful (troubles with verbs' images that won't appear). Then came commitments, studying, etc. etc.
But now we would like to start again with episode translation.

I see that there are 10 episodes already in english, but some of the authors aren't active since long time (someone even more than me!). Is it still possible to get the text files needed for the translation?


PS: we now have also a small international section on our forum.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 25. Februar 2014, 23:54:49
And also Episode 16 now speaks italian (http://www.maniac-mansion-mania.de/forum/index.php?topic=388.0)!

Thanks to Rayman soon also the italian version of the Bernard starterpack will be available.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 12. Oktober 2014, 00:30:58
I was wondering... would it be possible to add the italian flag in the pages of episodes 15 and 16 also for the english and spanish versions of the MMM website?
Thanks in advance (or thanks anyway  ;)).
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 08. Dezember 2014, 20:13:32
We're still here! Episode 83, Chasing Hoagie, is nearly completed.
Does anyone knows where are all te 5 eastereggs? We only found 3 of them.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Rayman am 30. Dezember 2014, 12:00:38
I asked your question in the thread of "Episode 83: Chasing Hoagie".

Just waiting for the answer. ;)
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 31. Dezember 2014, 19:59:04
Thanks!
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 26. Januar 2015, 22:15:57
Ep.83 is finished (and we also found all 5 eastereggs)!

Moreover, our tester found a way to add the italian GUI even without having the AGS game files.

Thanks to mukk for his help.

The next one is ep.90.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 27. März 2015, 19:18:20
MIWorld joins the celebration for 10 years of MMM with the translations of ep. 83 & 90, now officially completed!

Happy birthday!
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Rayman am 31. März 2015, 17:34:47
Thank you so much for your hardworking translations. I hope the Italian fans have fun and are very pleased to play episodes in Italian.  :)
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 10. November 2015, 21:59:17
Hello, everyone.
We'd want to start another translation, but the author of the chosen episode (77) is not active since March. I think we could still get the needed files and go on also without his help, but is it ok to do so without the author's permission?
Alternatively, do you have any suggestion on the episodes we should try?
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Elvis am 11. November 2015, 07:18:07
Probably the best episode ever is "#93 - Murder on the Moonshine Mansion" and it would surely deserve a translation.

In two days my first episode, #94, will be published and I would really like to see it translated to Italian. I suggest you take a look at it and send me a message if you're interested in translating it. I would gladly support you and give you all the files you need and answer any questions you have.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Bòógieman am 11. November 2015, 12:33:57
Hello, everyone.
We'd want to start another translation, but the author of the chosen episode (77) is not active since March. I think we could still get the needed files and go on also without his help, but is it ok to do so without the author's permission?
Alternatively, do you have any suggestion on the episodes we should try?
is the result a .tra file or are you creating a new .exe of the game?

but I think this should not happen without the author's permission
the author should at least have the last word on if the translation can be published or not
a not so well done translation could ruin the gaming experience of the whole episode  :cl
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 11. November 2015, 23:59:59
Probably the best episode ever is "#93 - Murder on the Moonshine Mansion" and it would surely deserve a translation.
Ah, sorry, I forgot to mention that we still don't have anyone who understands german, so we need to work on episodes that already have an english translation. We could try using google translate, but I can't guarantee the quality of the work  (just joking ;) )

is the result a .tra file or are you creating a new .exe of the game?

but I think this should not happen without the author's permission
the author should at least have the last word on if the translation can be published or not
Yes, I absolutely agree with you  :)
I think the result would still be a TRA file. We had a similar issue with episode 83, for which the author had lost the most recent game files. In that case we extracted and re-made the TRS, TRA and acsprset.spr files (the latter to add the italian GUI), but that was made in AGS 3.xx, while Ep 77 is in AGS 2.7x.

Maybe we could work on your episode, Halloween 05-3 Day of the Dead?
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Bòógieman am 12. November 2015, 11:48:12
Maybe we could work on your episode, Halloween 05-3 Day of the Dead?
sure thing!  ;D
do you need anything from me?
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 13. November 2015, 00:45:03
sure thing!  ;D
do you need anything from me?
Just the german-english translation text file.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 08. Februar 2016, 23:01:58
Maniac on the Mississipi & Day of the Dead nearly done!
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Elvis am 10. Februar 2016, 09:16:00
Version 1.2 of Maniac On The Mississippi has been released and contains an ITALIAN translation! Download it here! (http://www.maniac-mansion-mania.com/index.php/en/spiele/episoden/staffel-10/1023-episode-94-maniac-on-the-mississippi.html)

(http://s20.postimg.org/5702u0act/miworld.png)

The guys from MIWORLD.EU (http://miworld.eu) have added the translation and corrected some bugs after I provided them the source files.

Here is the list of changes since version 1.1:
Spoiler (hover to show)

I highly recommend working together with the guys from MIWORLD.EU!
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Giocherellone am 12. Februar 2016, 07:58:08
WOW Elvis!!! :D

All the Monkey Island World Forum THANKS YOU!

You are really kind, and we are happy to have made you happy! :D

And the screenshot above is SUPER! YEAH!

Greetings from Italy for you and for all the MMM guys!
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Bòógieman am 20. Februar 2016, 22:37:13
it took me some time but the Italian version of "day of the dead" is finally done!  :D
THX again!  :-*
and *what Elvis said*  ;)
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Giocherellone am 24. Februar 2016, 08:26:01
WHEW! :D

At Monkey Island World Forum we are just working (and enjoying) overtime hours!

Thanks to everyone, guys! :D
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 13. Juni 2016, 20:52:46
We've just finished our first german-italian translation: Maniac Mansion Mania Episode 51!
Thanks to Problem for his help!

(no, we still don't have anyone who understands german, but google translate is way better than I thought; especially in german-english translation)
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Kinkilla am 14. Juni 2016, 15:54:26
Good Job  :) The "Roommachine" is one of the best episodes
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Cmdr am 15. Juni 2016, 13:10:20
Congratulations!  ;D

The Google-Translator is a very useful tool to understand textes in languages to don't know. I also use it, when I'm reading in your italian board.  ;)
It just isn't useful to get a valid translation. For this, it makes too much grammatical mistakes.
Titel: Re: Italian translation
Beitrag von: Blackmonkey am 15. Juni 2016, 23:06:33
Yes, true. It's useful to get the meaning of the dialogues, but then every phrase needs to be checked.