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[cinemaguy1]

Boogieman, there are some places in the episode that could sound more natural if worded differently. Would you like me to reword these for you to make them more natural sounding or should I keep what I can of your words?

[Bòógieman]

ok, lets make them sound more natural 
as long as the sense of the text is still the same I won't mind
as I mentioned before, there are some proverbs and puns that where really hard for me to translate
and there is also a character with french accent and another one with swiss accent, so don't make them too english 

when you are done, I'll check the new texts to make sure that they still match to the german texts
or you just post these texts here (german + my english version + your english version) so I could tell you if this is ok 

[Iason79]

or you just post these texts here (german + my english version + your english version) so I could tell you if this is ok 

This really would be fun;
not to hype cinemaguy1 or harm Bòógieman or take criticism.
Just to lern and see the little difference, if BM is still OK with it ^^_^^

[cinemaguy1]

Oh definitely! I'm not wanting to rewrite anything. I hope it didn't come across that way. Just little things, really for clarity. I printed the .txt file today. 87 pages! That's longer than I thought it was! Very impressed Boogieman with the effort. Hope I can do it justice. I'll send you notes after I start. I'm hoping to use this to recognize a little German as well, not to mention learn how to make a game. I love the idea of making my own. (Then you can translate it to German for me...) Heh heh...

[Bòógieman]

well, the game uses about 3000 german textlines and I've translated them at once
I did that during work while no one was looking
that's why my translations are so simple 

my english skills would allow a much better translation (but still far away from being perfect)   

when I first started the game using my english translation, I've noticed that some sentences are not well translated and I wanted to proofread the whole thing again, but then I started working on my next MMM-game and so I've left the translation behind


why have you printed it? are you proofreading on paper? 

[cinemaguy1]

No, no. I'm not really proofreading on paper. Just wanted to go over it at work and that was the only way. Also, that way, I looked busy...

[cinemaguy1]

So, interesting problem... My saved game won't load. It continues to load the beginning of the game. That's seriously going to affect my understanding of the game. I need to get back to where I was without starting over every time.

[Iason79]

maybe you changed the resolution in winsetup.exe?
this is one of the many reasons, if not I cant help really...

[Bòógieman]

in fact, that's the only savegame-problem I'm aware of
you have to start the game with the same resolution each time
stick to the resolution 320*200 and use the graphics filter if you want to increase the window-size
do you get any error messages when you load or save the game?

the only way to load and save is by pressing F5 while the mouse-cursor is visible and you are able to control Klaus
a menu window will appear which gives you the choice of loading and saving
there is no fastsave or fastload function in the game

how do you start the game?
do you double-click on MMM-dksz.exe or did you make any shortcuts on your desktop/startmenu?
if so, make sure that the shortcut uses the correct working path

also make sure, that none of the game files is read-only

and I hope you have unzipped MM53.zip and you are not starting the game inside this ZIP-file

last but not least: what OS do you use? windows? linux? etc.

[cinemaguy1]

OK, I guess I try different resolutions and see what effects I have. I am over halfway done with proofreading, but this might slow me down a little if I can't reload.

Only real problems I'm fixing is some words that were compound words like I'm where it should be I am. We never use the words Rector or canteen either. We use Principal and cafeteria. I would change these. Mostly only changing word order to American syntax is all I have left. It was a very good translation considering. Better than I ever could have done.

I hadn't unzipped it. I will now though.

And I'm on Windows XP.

Great game. Hope to finish it tonight! Proofreading will be done soon too.

[Bòógieman]

canteen or cafeteria, it's all the same to me 
but I have chosen "Rector" because at one point, Klaus calls him "Rectum Harris"
and I have no idea how to make an equal joke with "Principal", maybe you could help here 

I used "I'm", "I'll" and stuff, because all the text is actually speech
and I thought that would make it more speech-like, however 

and yes, playing the game out of the ZIP-file causes your savegame problem
use the unzipped-version and you will be fine 
but I think your previous savegames are lost unless you find them on your system and copy them into the game folder 

and if you want, I could make a translation-file out of your changed english.txt, so you could see your changes while playing the game

and don't forget to check the eastereggs 

[cinemaguy1]

I also noticed you gave the school a European style meaning the entrance floor is the ground floor and the floor above that is the first floor. Technically speaking, in America, most buildings have the entrance floor as the first floor and work up from there. Up to you if this is worth changing. Certainly not a big deal at all.

You also gave European prices to things meaning 4,99$ where as in America we use a period instead of a comma and use the dollar sign first, $4.99. I already changed those around as well. Just for you to know...

[Bòógieman]

I also noticed you gave the school a European style meaning the entrance floor is the ground floor and the floor above that is the first floor. Technically speaking, in America, most buildings have the entrance floor as the first floor and work up from there. Up to you if this is worth changing. Certainly not a big deal at all.

look closer, I already did it the way you suggested (at least in the translated text)
the german version starts with the ground floor (Erdgeschoss)
the english translation starts with the first floor
you won't find "ground floor" in english.txt 

but I have only changed the text, so the background graphics still have signs starting with G for ground floor
I will change the signs in the background graphics, but you do not have to change anything in the translation file 

oh and one thing I forgot to mention:
there is an arabian character named Achmed who actually has some problems speaking english 
so I did the wrong word order and the 3rd person talking on purpose here 
but if you have some ideas how to make him sound more like an arab with poor english skills, you are welcome to change that 

[Iason79]

Were talking for an english version of Achmed,
would it not not be better to agree on one Achmed-style for consistency?
I mean for later translated episodes..

But I guess cinemaguy1 will find the right amount ;)

[cinemaguy1]

Truthfully, it seems about on target as is in terms of Achmed's speech. I won't be making any changes with syntax there at all. It was written well and I think the episode as is for him should be how future appearances from him should be done. There is one line that starts with three or four i's. Do you want those there as well?

One other thought I had, quantum physics is ordinarily called quantum mechanics in my experience. Not sure if you can use quantum physics. Perhaps something to check out and choose the one you like.

My proofread is done, but unfortunately only on paper. My eyes started to hurt and I went to the paper. I'll work tonight and probably tomorrow as well and hopefully be done.

I'm doing the English walkthrough as well. I assume there's no objection there. If I come up with more specific things, I'll post them here. Hopefully, you'll be pleased. Remember it's all really just recommendations and you have final say on what goes into your game. Hopefully, I can make one in the future! I want to!